how about speaker newt gingrich's congress. 333 bills signed into law. your congress has just 219 bills signed into law. >> the american people are sick of it. joining me now is clarence page, columnist for the chicago tribune. thank you both for being here. >> i'm glad to be here. thanks for having me. >> ryan, this "huffington post" story got a lot of coverage. >> it's as dysfunctional as anything we had in the modern era. it's great that amanda ran the traps on that. what she found is dozens of these bills managed simply renamed federal bills or post offices. so, in some ways, their accomplishments are even overstated. so, you know, it's just -- it's just been an awful two years from congress and the american people's opinion of it is right. i think it has an eight or nine or ten percent approval rating and that's probably generous. >> gallup says they're 68% on if fiscal cliff, but clarence page, you covered congress. you covered the hill in washington for some time better than -- >> long time, yeah. >> better than most that i've known. have you ever